• Located in the bustling Steveston Fisherman's Wharf
• Family-operated since 2007, known for all-day breakfast and homemade comfort food
• Features a fully vented commercial kitchen
• Monthly rent is only $1,375
• High foot traffic area frequented by tourists for fishing, whale watching, and shopping
• Offers a unique opportunity with great reviews and popularity, even featured in movies

• Prime location in Steveston, BC
• 1,000 sq. ft. space with excellent exposure
• Includes a liquor license and small outdoor patio
• Affordable lease at $3,100 per month
• 3.5 years remaining on the lease with an additional 5-year option

• Located in a busy shopping plaza near Aberdeen Centre and SkyTrain
• High visibility and heavy foot traffic
• Loyal customer base
• Easy to manage with minimal staff requirements
• Low food costs
• Includes training for a smooth transition
• Ample parking available

• Profitable pizza restaurant in a busy area
• Includes all necessary equipment like pizza oven, prep table, and walk-in cooler
• Option to continue with existing franchise or implement your own ideas
• Current lease at $3,507.83 inclusive of GST
• Landlord willing to negotiate a new long-term lease

• Established restaurant in a high-traffic location
• Surrounded by residential buildings and businesses
• Fully equipped commercial kitchen
• Loyal clientele base
• Ample customer parking available
• Opportunity for a new concept or cuisine

• Located in the heart of Richmond
• Features a fusion of Asian and Western cuisines
• Stylish renovations with a cozy wine bar
• Accommodates up to 50 guests
• Liquor license from 9 AM to midnight daily
• Fully equipped kitchen with code-compliant equipment
• Fresh, seasonal seafood served year-round
• Built-in reservation and marketing systems
• Ample free parking available
• Potential for partial ownership

• Located in a highly sought-after central location in Richmond
• Directly across from Richmond Centre and Brighouse SkyTrain station
• Exceptional visibility and high foot traffic
• 797 sq. ft. unit with wide frontage
• Close to three residential towers and an office tower
• Upcoming residential condos nearby create a bustling environment

• Located at Aberdeen Centre, a popular shopping destination.
• Fully equipped commercial kitchen in a compact 323 sqft space.
• Currently operates as a beef noodle kitchen but adaptable to other food concepts.
• Lease is 2 years with an option for a 5 year renewal.

• Located at The Mukai, a historic boutique building
• Street level corner unit at a busy intersection
• High visibility with large windows on two sides
• Modern design with over 1,200 square feet of open space
• Perfect for retail or service-oriented business
• Ideal location in a vibrant area of Richmond

• Established pub in a prime Richmond location
• Strong reputation for nightlife entertainment
• Offers a lively atmosphere with quality food and drinks
• Fully equipped commercial kitchen and Liquor Primary licence
• Operates seven nights a week
• Suitable for large events and private parties
• Opportunity for new ownership with growth potential

• Located in Richmond Centre, a busy shopping area
• Offers a variety of products including cigarettes, lottery, smoking accessories, snacks, and beverages
• Generates over $100,000 in yearly lottery commission
• Low monthly rent of approximately $6,500
• 2.5 years remaining on lease with option to renew
• High customer traffic ensures steady business

• Located in a highly desirable area of Richmond
• Recently renovated with a modern design
• Equipped with high-quality tools for dessert preparation
• Offers a welcoming and enjoyable atmosphere for customers
• Ideal opportunity for dessert enthusiasts or aspiring business owners

• Located in the vibrant heart of Richmond
• Strong reputation with a loyal customer base
• High volume of bookings
• Cozy and private dining experience
• 5,153 square feet of elegantly decorated space
• Includes 2 VIP rooms for exclusive dining
• Fully equipped commercial kitchen with walk-in cooler
• 7 vents in dining area for optimal ventilation

• Well established 130 seat restaurant in a prime shopping centre
• Located near a national supermarket and drug store
• Ample parking for customers
• Fully equipped large commercial kitchen with walk-in cooler & freezer
• Recently updated dining room in excellent condition
• Long lease term available
• 20 years of successful operation with a loyal customer base

• Located in the heart of Richmond's commercial core
• Surrounded by high-rise residential buildings
• High exposure on No.3 Road
• Spacious 4,850 sqft dining area with VIP rooms
• Fully equipped commercial kitchen with walk-in cooler and freezer
• Liquor license included
• Ample customer parking available
• Open 7 days a week, with convenient operating hours

• Located in Richmond near Ikea, with high visibility.
• Offers front retail space and convenient loading bay.
• Operated for nearly 10 years with a base of over 200 loyal clients.
• Specializes in graphic design, digital printing, book binding, signage, and more.
• Lower rent coupled with a higher revenue potential.
• Training available for new owners.
• Stable income ideal for new immigrants or family-operated businesses.
• Opportunity to become your own boss.

• Leading cooking academy in Richmond for children and teens aged 3-18
• Focus on practical life skills, confidence, independence, and healthy eating
• Franchise model available with complete training provided
• Opportunity priced below the cost of setup

• Located in busy Richmond near Ikea
• Ground floor strata warehouse with retail space and loading bay
• Operating for nearly 10 years with over 200 loyal clients
• Services include graphic design, digital printing, and signage
• Lower rent with higher revenue potential
• Stable income, ideal for new immigrants or family-run businesses
• Training available for new owners

• Located in a prime area across from Richmond Centre
• Long-standing business with all-star reviews
• Operated by professional tailor with experience
• Includes 9 professional machines for various alterations
• Two full-time employees support daily operations
• Owner provides training for a smooth transition
• Proven track record of success and customer satisfaction

• Well-established Chinese restaurant for sale in Richmond's City Centre
• High visibility near Aberdeen Centre and Parker Place Shopping Mall
• 5-minute walk to skytrain station for easy access
• Spacious 3360 Sq Ft with a fully equipped commercial kitchen
• Liquor license allows operations until midnight
• Warm and inviting dining atmosphere with substantial patio deck
• Excellent online reviews attracting a steady customer flow
• Open 7 days a week with ample parking available

• Prime location in Richmond.
• High-end private dining experience.
• Unique blend of modern French cuisine with Asian influences.
• Elegant and contemporary decor.
• Experienced chef from Michelin-starred restaurants.
• Offers online ordering for takeout and delivery.
• Reasonable rent with a long-term lease.
• Google rating of 4.5 stars.
• Opportunity to own a refined dining establishment.

• Business opened in 2018 with significant investments in renovation and branding.
• Annual sales of approximately $400,000.
• Affordable rent of $2,707 per month.
• Lease in place until May 2029.
• Located in a busy area of Richmond.

• Well-established auto repair business for sale
• Located in prime North Richmond industrial unit
• Includes essential equipment: wheel balancer, car lift, tire changer, and tire alignment machine
• 5-star Google rating based on over 100 reviews
• Attractive investment opportunity for new owner

• Located on busy No. 3 Road in Richmond
• Ideal for bubble tea or coffee business
• High foot traffic area
• Attractive lease terms available
• Fully equipped with necessary fixtures

• Located at Aberdeen Centre, Richmond
• Located on ground floor in Central Atrium
• Fully equipped with loyal clientele
• 2164 sqft store space
• Ample parking available
• Mall operating hours: 11am-7pm, Fri-Sat until 8pm

• Located on Westminster Highway, opposite Richmond Public Market
• 3,360 sq ft retail space
• Offers fresh vegetables, fruits, meats, dry food, frozen food, and groceries
• Equipped with numerous walk-in coolers, freezers, and a large storage room
• Recently updated fixtures and equipment worth $150,000
• Gross rental cost of $17,978/month
• Lease expires on September 30, 2024, with renewal option available
• High traffic area with ample parking
• Ideal opportunity for families, partnerships, or new immigrants

• Operating for almost 10 years with a strong reputation
• Loyal customer base and proven track record
• Offers comprehensive services including event and wedding planning, photography, cinematography, make-up, venue, and floral decoration
• Focuses on creating unforgettable experiences for clients
• Training provided to ensure a smooth transition
• Located in Richmond, British Columbia

• Well-established and successful business
• Located in high-traffic area with great visibility
• Reputable name known for quality and exceptional service
• Easy to operate with comprehensive training provided
• Ideal opportunity for business enthusiasts

• Profitable pizza store in a 1096 sq ft space
• Located in a vibrant area of Richmond
• Well-established customer base
• High foot traffic location
• Strong potential for growth and expansion

• Located in a busy area of Richmond
• Offers a diverse selection of products
• Strong customer base and steady foot traffic
• Well-maintained premises with modern fixtures
• Potential for growth and expansion

• Located in the prestigious Aberdeen Center
• Approx. 500 SF of fully renovated space
• High foot traffic with ample visitor parking
• Popular restaurant with a solid reputation
• Great layout for operational efficiency
• Ready for immediate business opportunities

• Established business with a strong local reputation.
• Located in a busy commercial area with high foot traffic.
• Specializes in fresh and frozen seafood.
• Offers unique seafood-related souvenirs.
• Affordable rent with potential for growth.
• Opportunity to increase sales through online marketing.
• Ideal for a new owner to continue the legacy.

• Located on a busy street in Richmond
• Highly profitable business with a loyal customer base
• Prime location with high foot traffic
• Fully stocked inventory included in the sale
• Great opportunity for growth and expansion

• Located in PARKER PLACE shopping mall in Richmond, British Columbia
• Situated facing the food court with a large flow of traffic
• Ample visitor parking available
• Prime location for a retail business

• Located in prestigious commercial complex Richmond Union Square
• Approximately 1,500 SF of fully renovated space
• Great layout and ample visitor parking available
• Ready for new owner to take over
• Please contact to book a private showing

• Spacious condo in a convenient location
• Beautiful views from the unit
• Buyer to verify measurements
• Contact Dexter for showings

• Located in a high-traffic strip mall in Richmond's Union Square
• Serving high-net-worth clientele for over 10 years
• Ideal for physiotherapy, traditional Chinese medicine, and medical beauty services
• Situated in an area experiencing rapid population growth
• Close proximity to upcoming skytrain station at Capstan Way/No. 3 Road

• Full kitchen with 221 sqft space
• Gross rent $2500 including property tax and strata fee
• Located in a popular food court in Richmond
• Lease term of 3+2 with 2+2 years remaining

• 32 Infant/Toddler & 3-5 program
• Construction completion expected Sept/Oct 2024
• Fantastic lease rate of $15/SF
• Contact seller for more details

• Located on 9.38 acres
• Includes a 4 bed, 4 bath house
• Features equestrian stable and barn/arena
• Additional hay & storage buildings included
• Property being sold as-is-where-is

• Located on famous 'Food Street' Alexandra Road
• Fully equipped commercial kitchen with two exhaust hoods
• Cozy 50 seat dining room
• Ample customer parking
• Liquor license until 2 AM
• Reasonable rent
• 24 years in business under same owner
• Showing by appointment only

• Located in Parker Place Mall in the heart of Richmond's Asian shopping district
• Strong foot traffic and close to Canada Line Skytrain Station
• Popular after school programs and tutoring services
• Busy food court and high visibility location

Located across from Steveston Park
Authorized Miele Retailer and Repair Center
Unique and colorful building with loyal customer base
Great opportunity for growth and new ideas

• 1363 sqft fully equipped space with fancy decor
• High ceilings and ample natural light
• Excellent reputation with high online ratings
• Zoned IBl for diverse uses
• Ideal for owner use or investment property
• Located in Richmond, British Columbia

Really cool decor and layout
1300+ square feet in size
Fully vented commercial kitchen
Great opportunity to make this space your own

• Well-established restaurant in Richmond
• Fully equipped commercial kitchen
• Includes liquor license
• Approximately 1300 square feet
• Ready for new owner to take over

• Located at Parker Place II in Richmond
• 488 SQFT corner shop with high foot traffic
• Low rent at $2100 including strata management fee
• Fully equipped bubble tea shop ready for new owners
• Ideal for new immigrants and family business
• Don't miss this opportunity!

• Located in bustling commercial core of Richmond
• High stream of customers and popular location
• Fully equipped commercial kitchen with ventilation
• 1,537 sq ft with spacious dining area and plaza parking
• Lease term till 2028 with renewal option
• Opportunity to introduce new concept
• Contact listing agent for more information

• Well-established music store business in a prime location
• Recently renovated with 5 music rooms and 1 washroom
• Lease in place until July 2027 with renewal options available
• Specializes in piano sales and music lessons
• Showing by appointment only - please do not disturb staff

• Established for 25 years
• Specializes in Asian foods, kitchen supplies, and smallwares
• Sole agent for three Asian food brands
• Convenient warehouse location in Richmond with 6,144 sf
• Monthly rent $9,216 with gross rental $12,752
• Seller willing to provide training for new owner
• Lease valid until May 31, 2029

• Located in the Crestwood Industrial District
• Prime location with easy access to major roads and the airport
• Ideal for manufacturing and distribution companies
• Part of a multi-tenant development for optimal efficiency
• Offers a professional image in a serene business park environment

• 31 years in business
• Impressive array of valuable items
• Specializes in pieces from Northern Wei, Tang Dynasty, and Sanxingdui culture
• Collection includes renowned ceramic works
• Values range from $100,000 to $200,000 per item
• 491 sqft corner unit with four-sided glass
• Solid base of repeat customers
• Price includes property and inventory
• Unique opportunity for antique enthusiast or savvy entrepreneur
• Owner retiring, seeking someone to continue the legacy

• Located in the commercial core of Richmond
• 2756 SF space with a modern, brightly lit dining room
• Two commercial kitchen ventilations (12 ft and 8 ft)
• Space suitable for manufacturing use
• Liquor license until mid plus ample parking available
• Showing by appointment only

• 1297 sq.ft. prime location in Richmond
• New lease with 5-year option to renew
• Located at 2010 8580 ALEXANDRA ROAD
• Great business opportunity in British Columbia

• Reputed for facial, skin care, and spa services since 1996
• Potential to convert into a high-end hair salon, nail salon, or massage salon
• Located in Richmond with a large flow of traffic and plenty of visitor parking
• Beautiful interior with top-quality equipment
• Steady and increasing business with good income
• Lease available for a new 5+5 term
• Ideal for family business or new immigrants

• Located in iconic restaurant cluster in Richmond
• 1,327 sqft space with fully equipped commercial kitchen
• 58-seat liquor license until midnight
• Ample customer parking available
• Perfect opportunity for new concept or brand
• Contact the listing agent for more information

• Well-known restaurant in a prime location
• Fully equipped kitchen
• Loyal customer base
• Opportunity for growth and expansion
• Turnkey operation

• Includes flagship store in Richmond and branch in Burnaby
• Exclusive distribution rights for Canada
• Specializes in high-quality fruit teas and popular milk teas
• Profitable business with own delivery platform
• Founder available for training and guidance

• Located in a prominent restaurant cluster in Richmond
• Recently upgraded leasehold improvements and equipment
• 1,378 sqft space with fully equipped commercial kitchen and walk-in cooler
• Liquor license valid until 2:00 am
• Includes 2 reserved parking spots and ample customer parking
• Lease term until 2026 with renewal options available
• Business is turnkey, open to new concepts/brands

• Well-established business with full vehicle licensing
• Offers vehicle buying, selling, leasing, and financing services
• Includes a car wash facility for top-tier vehicle maintenance
• Beautifully renovated showroom with high-quality improvements
• Strong customer base and ample parking space available
• Seller willing to provide training for new owners

• Well-established restaurant in a bustling plaza with high foot traffic
• Prime location surrounded by popular businesses
• Strong customer base with ideal demographics
• Opportunity to negotiate a favorable new lease
• Contact for more details and viewing

This is a great opportunity to purchase your first commercial daycare in Richmond at an amazing purchase price. This 12 licensed commercial daycare is located in its own stand alone building giving the operator high exposure and a spacious outdoor space.

• Located in the heart of Richmond near popular shopping centers and skytrain station.
• Includes facial devices, equipment, and skincare product inventory.
• Can be used for other retail business brands as well.
• Newly built spa with fresh renovation and equipment.
• Ideal for attracting both local and tourist customers.
• Great exposure with ample parking spaces available.

• Located inside Empire Centre Shopping Plaza
• Benefits from major brand distributor
• 650 sq ft corner unit with kitchen and freezer
• Affordable rent with long-term lease option
• Training provided for new owner
• Ideal for cafe, beverage shop, or dessert shop

• Located next to the Skytrain station and steps away from the bus station
• Rare open full commercial kitchen with sufficient storage space and walk-in cooler
• Classy and modern furnishing in the restaurant space
• Ample free mall parking available
• 65 seat liquor license until midnight
• Perfect place to hang out with friends

• 2200SF corner lot in the heart of Steveston Village
• 1,730 SF of prime retail space
• Located in a highly visited tourist destination
• Close to community amenities and popular attractions
• Historical site with long-term preservation
• Perfect for investors or entrepreneurs looking to own a piece of history

• Located in a well-established plaza with popular anchor stores
• Ideal for couples or small families, no experience necessary
• Serving the growing Ironwood community and commercial area
• Showing by appointment only, please do not disturb staff

• Located in a busy strip mall in Richmond
• Well-established and highly profitable
• Confidential sale - contact for more details

• Low rent establishment with loyal customer base
• Fully equipped with ovens, fridges, freezers, and order system
• Lots of parking available in front
• Excellent ratings on food delivery platforms
• Great opportunity for new immigrants or a family venture

• Located in the picturesque Steveston Village with waterfront views
• Brand new top-of-the-line kitchen facilities and spacious interior
• Expansive patio with a seating capacity for 86 people
• Licensed for 144 people indoors
• Assets only sale, name and intellectual property not included

• 800 sf retail space with excellent exposure to Saba & Buswell
• Located 1 block from No. 3 Rd
• Finished with air-conditioning and washroom
• Versatile space suitable for office, convenience store, dry cleaner, and other service retail uses

• Located in a prime location with heavy foot traffic
• Established customer base with high customer retention
• Profitable business with increasing revenue year over year
• Well-curated inventory of trendy fashion items
• Turnkey operation with experienced staff in place

• 16-year-old cozy café with loyal customer base
• Renowned for delicious coffee, gourmet sandwiches, and exquisite pastries
• Prime location in picturesque Steveston village with steady foot traffic
• Turnkey business opportunity with charming rustic-modern interior
• Ideal for seasoned restaurateurs or new entrepreneurs
• Strong community presence and potential for growth

• Located near Aberdeen Skytrain station in Richmond's busy business district
• Newly renovated interior with fully equipped commercial kitchen
• Staff restrooms available
• Price includes brand - ready for new ownership
• Showing by appointment only

• Located in Aberdeen Square with 411 sqft ground floor unit
• Low, reasonable monthly rent
• Well-established business with loyal clientele and online reservations
• Experienced operating team in place
• Perfect for owner operation or hands-free investment
• Other locations in Downtown and Burnaby also available for sale

• Located in the heart of Downtown Richmond
• Well established and profitable franchise
• Over $100,000 initial investment on renovation
• Fully equipped commercial kitchen
• Monthly Rent $8,542.08
• Rare opportunity to own a restaurant business in prime location

• Established online business for sale in Richmond
• Does not require landlord approval for online operations
• Excludes vehicle repair, tire sales, and car wash services
• Excellent opportunity for e-commerce entrepreneurs

• Rare opportunity to acquire a fully equipped processing facility
• Located conveniently near Knight St. Hwy exit
• Comes with federal seafood license
• Includes wrapping machine, instant freezer, cooler, cutting machine, dehumidifier, and more
• Total leasable area of 5,061 sqft with a gross rent of $6,7xx/month
• Strategic access to the Greater Vancouver Area
• Showings available by appointment only

• Located on River Road in a 3,000 sf two-level building
• Sells red wines, white wines, dessert wines, and a variety of fruity wines
• Includes retail license that is hard to obtain
• Provides training for easy operation
• Building includes a ground floor retail store and office space on the second floor
• Land also available for sale

• Located in the heart of Richmond next to Lansdowne Centre
• 38 seats with liquor license until midnight
• Newly renovated with modern interior
• 995 sqft space with low rent
• Operating hours from 11:30am - 11pm
• Training and receipt provided
• Easy to manage, new concept welcome

• 562 Sq. ft full kitchen take out restaurant
• Located in a prime Richmond location
• Very low rent at $3000 per month
• Great opportunity for a new owner to take over and start operating

• Convenient location facing the river in a quiet area
• Offers English, Chinese, Math, Arts, and Dance lessons
• Ample parking with approximately 2,056 sq ft of space
• Low rent fixed at $2,056.00 basic monthly rent until end of lease term
• Completely turnkey operation ready for new owner

• Over 20 years in business
• Located in a prime spot attracting customers from all over the lower mainland
• Advantages include long history and client connections
• Street front exposure with low operating costs
• High profit margin with minimal inventory
• Owner offering training for smooth transition

• Located at 5500 8181 Cambie Road in Richmond, BC
• High visibility and convenient access to public transportation
• Versatile unit suitable for various businesses such as office, education, medical, and more
• Well-established commercial complex with professional atmosphere
• Ample parking spaces, well-kept common areas, and food court available

• 670 sqft retail unit facing McKim Way in Pacific Plaza, Richmond
• Industrial Limited Retail zoning allows for a wide variety of usage
• Newly renovated space with newer flooring and workstations
• Remodeled bathroom with handicap accessibility
• Includes tenant improvements, equipment, business license for beverage cafe, and lease agreement

• Located in the heart of fisherman's wharf with loyal customers
• Corner unit at a busy intersection with high visibility
• Well-run franchise with modern design
• Over 1,200 square feet of bright open space
• Contact for private showing

• Well-established restaurant in a prime location
• Profitable business with loyal customer base
• Fully equipped kitchen and dining area
• Opportunity for growth and expansion
• Perfect for aspiring restaurateurs

• Established in 2008 with substantial growth
• Operating in Greater Vancouver, Vancouver Island, and interior BC
• Potential to expand service areas to Alberta
• Revenue surpassed $3.2 million last fiscal year
• Company owns and leases 25 commercial trucks

• Convenient location adjacent to Canada Line Aberdeen Skytrain Station
• High foot traffic in the area
• Three distinct business licenses for a wide range of services
• Established brand and website with online booking and sales capabilities
• Includes mall security, cleaning services, and free parking for customers
• Confidential listing - contact the listing agent for more information

1,364 sqft dessert store in high-traffic plaza
Located in Richmond's core commercial district
Cozy floor plan with newer equipment
Lease term until May 31, 2025 with renewal option
Ample plaza parking available
New concept welcome

• Located in a high exposure area surrounded by residential and commercial buildings
• Spacious main dining area with floor-to-ceiling windows
• Several private dining rooms for intimate gatherings
• Fully equipped commercial kitchen with ventilation
• Liquor licence until 12am
• 3580 sqft store space with ample parking
• Option to continue current concept or bring new ideas
• Confidential listing - contact agent for more details

• Located in a newer plaza next to Walmart
• High exposure and high traffic area
• 965 SF fully equipped space
• Lease term until December 31, 2026 + 5-year renewal option
• Perfect for bubble tea, desserts, light food, and more

• Annual revenue in the tens of millions
• Streamlined production and sales processes
• Renovation investments exceeding $1 million with Federal Standard Setup guidelines
• Possible to convert to federal licenses with some updates
• Lease secured until December 31, 2030
• Offers immigration quota opportunities
• Located in Richmond with ample parking

• Full-service general print store
• Offers event signs, banners, and promotional materials
• Acquired smaller printing businesses in the area
• Convenient one-stop shop for all print products

• Prime location on bustling Number 3 Road
• 1157 sqft space with ample parking available
• Turn-key business with strong reputation and loyal customer base
• Suitable for massage/spa/beauty businesses
• Close to Richmond Center, Lansdowne Mall, and the SkyTrain Station
• Showing by appointment only, do not disturb staff

• Located in extremely busy and high foot traffic mall
• 350 SF space with reasonable rent rate
• Open 7 days a week with no slow days
• Well-equipped turn-key business, new concept welcome
• Lease term until December 15, 2025 with 5 years renewal option
• Ample mall parking available

• Located in the heart of Richmond's commercial core
• High exposure and foot traffic
• Seeking franchisees with no royalty or franchise fee
• 621 sqft space with over $180K in renovations and equipment
• Lease term until September 30, 2028
• Reasonable rent rate and ample parking available

• Located on Alexandra Road (food street) in a busy plaza
• 592 sq ft store space with recent renovations
• Well-known franchise with loyal clientele
• Low rent at $3954.51 gross
• Franchise fee paid until late 2024, royalty fee at 3%
• Open 7 days a week with training available

• Located in the heart of bustling President Plaza with high foot traffic
• 539 SF space with competitive rent
• Ample free mall parking
• New concept welcome, subject to landlord's approval
• Selling price includes business training, brand not included

• Famous Shefield & Sons franchise smoke shop in Richmond Mall
• Safe and profitable business with stable income
• High sale of Lotto with 2 machines
• Easy and stress-free management
• Owner managing since 2011 and looking to retire
• Located in Richmond Mall with 4-5 employees